On May 24th, 2012 we had a chance to talk to J.A Holmberg, the vocalist of Stockholm destroyers called THIS GIFT IS A CURSE! Their killer blend of post hardcore, post metal, black metal and chaotic hardcore will rip your hearts out, blow your heads off and make their “I, Gvilt bearer” album one of the most smashing things you’ve ever heard. Press the play button below and hold tight!
Ok, I just had my head ripped off. So basically YES, Iโve listened to your โI, Guilt Bearerโ full length and I will recommend it to every single sludgy, heavy, bloody, chaotic and metallic hardcore head out there. Outstanding.
Thanks for those kind words. We are glad it spoke to you.
How was the recording process and the place itself? How was Magnus Bjรถrk? Did it take long to create such a hammer and how different was it comparing to your debut EP (2010)?
The process of the LP was not like any other recording we done previously – with any band. We really took our time to find the right sound on every instrument as well as the right vibe and atmosphere in the production as a whole. When we recorded the CDEP we were in Tomas Skogsberg studio, out in a barn situated one hour north of Stockholm. The weather was really cold and it constantly snowed, this made it even difficult to even get to the actual place in time every day. The whole recording felt like a โbattle against timeโ cause we could only afford economically to record for a short time. As well as we didnโt have a real clear idea what we wanted to do sound wise at that time. We in the band have always felt that we didnยดt got the best out of us on that recording. It felt kind of โforcedโ in some way. So when it was time to record the full-length we wanted to have a longer time to find โusโ in the sound. We also had a more clear idea on what we wanted to create. Iโve known Magnus Bjรถrk for many years, because he had a studio in my old home town of Gรคvle and recorded many bands such as MELEEH and CHILDREN OF FALL. Iยดve always admire his work as well how he works. Heโs really calm, thorough and itโs like he always sees stuff in what youยดre making that you even canยดt imagine that early in the process. He has a real wide โvisionโ and comes from an old school blackmetal background but has the last years been involved in everything from playing in โcommercialโ pop bands to recording obscure hardcore/metal/punk/grind acts.
The thing is that he quit recoding bands actively and moved to Stockholm to focus on university studies some years ago. He did our mastering on the CDEP between school and other work. I had to call and nag on him several times to find time for him to be part of this project. We borrowed his studio and build it up on a secret location north of Stockholm that we could work in day and night without being disturbed. Magnus worked kind of like a sound consultant and helped us find the right sound of each section, and then we recorded it ourselves โ for how long as we wanted. We wanted time to let everything โrotโ. We took our time to our time to go through every song and linking it to the lyrics and its meaning to the music – to get an real โconnectedโ feeling through it all. We could work more holistic which made every detail much rawer, naked and honest. For example we really discussed all lyrics before doing them, to put ourselves in the mindset of the characteristics the song was โportagingโ. Songs like Head and Arms (about a murder that was done last summer here in Sweden when three friends killed a forth and filmed it as the chopped up and decapitated his body before throwing it in a lake), Inferno ad O. (influenced by August Strindbergโs books Inferno and the Occult Diary, and itโs really about the breakdown of a human beings and excepting being part of Dark rather than the Light) and I Will Swallow All Light (about psychological illness and longing for death) was three songs I remembering was extra โemotionalโ exhausting to put down on lyrics.
ย We also had the help of Bjรถrn O (from the late hardcore-act MELEEH), who is an old friend of the band and have worked with Magnus on other recordings as a co-producer. Bjรถrn O is really useful in that science that he has excellent taste in music and dead honest in his critic – all the time. No diplomat. But we didnโt need a yes-sayer in this project. Magnus and Bjรถrn helped us find the sound we wanted, and we recorded ourselves. Magnus then came by time by time to see what we were doing as well as helped out if hit โthe brick wallโ. So it was many late nights and rituals to get the most out of everything we wanted. Magnus then took it all back to his newly build โsecretโ hideout RAVEN HILL in south Stockholm to do the last of mixing and masteringโฆ and here we are.
Nice. And as a result, did you get a lot of attention? How was the outing received?
So far people seem to like it. Many critics seem to think itยดs the โdarkest piece of music they ever heardโ. Some say it too dark, how that now works? But I guess itยดs not for everyone. Or rather, it seems to โscareโ them what it make them feel… which is good to us. But itยดs nothing new, itยดs human nature at display.
Whatโs the place of black metal and sludge metal in the hardcore genre? What do you think about todayโs modern wave of bands such as yourself, AXIS, FULL OF HELL and more post-metal oriented camps like DEAFHEAVEN, for example? Was black metal ever closer to hardcore? Is it trendy?
โWhat do you think about todayโs modern wave of bands such as yourself.โ I really donโt know. If it do exist or what to think of it. We try not to care as much about โgenresโ when we write music. How it sound – thatโs us, we donยดt wanted to hinder ourselves with โgenresโ and what is โtrueโ or not. I rather than be โtrue untrueโ. About those other bands we have nothing to say. Iโve been into curst music for many years, and I think the link between black metal and d-beat crust has been established for years, if not already from the beginning. Heavy metal and d-beat = crust. Weโre all into bands like MARTYRDรD and SKITSYSTEM itยดs been a great inspiration for us to create black raw atmosphere our music. In MARTYDรD I think the link between blackmetal and crust/hardcore is manifested to its full extent. And in blackmetal, for us, is where we can create an emotional format and vibe that best interpret what THIS GIFT IS A CURSE is about โ both in sound atmosphere and symbolic metaphysical messaging.
What are some of the themes youโre singing about? What inspires you to come up with lyrics? Whatโs the story behind your artworks?
On โI, Guilt Bearerโ themes are about human natures clash and its โdealingsโ with human โcultureโ. And the feeling of agony and guilt we all carry around as we try to withhold this faรงade. But also to except the fact that you as an individual may not be part of the โnormativeโ and even how hard you try to conform there will always be something in you that will feel wrong or that you not really belong. There must be a shadow of darkness for their Light to shine so bright. I can be the failure so โtheyโ can feel normal. I rather am in the shadows than in there false and depressive light. But I do believe in society and that human can co-exist under โcultureโ, but the socially constructed guidelines of correct behavior are made by some to control others – to put people in โtheir placeโ.
I work in the psychiatry field as well as studies behavioral science at university โ I guess a lot of my thoughts/scenarios in my lyrics is a mirroring of that. As well as books I read. When we wrote โI, Guilt Bearerโ I was really into authors like Nikanor Teratologen and August Strindberg. A lot of my artwork comes from different occultist symbolic schemes that Iโve interpreted for to my own usage and all with their own meanings โ which I then connect to the โartโ we are making. When I/we stared โchargeโ my artwork and lyrics with these different symbolisms the whole musical approach become more holistic and itยดs was really then we found ourselves in what we do. We became more of an โentitโy as we had our own symbols to gather around. Another vital thing our artwork, or person to be exact is F. Lindblรฅ who made the CDEP-cover as well as half of the work on the โI, Guilt Bearerโ-cover. He is kind of the 5th member of the band and does all the noise/soundscapes on the records as well as works as my right hand (see left hand) when it comes to my artwork. We are into the same books and esthetic ideas in many things and his feedback is very important process when I make my artwork. THIS GIFTโฆ is real fortune to be able to work with him. He contributes with a 5th eye to the creation of our musical atmosphere and artwork.
Ok, so let’s back down to earth for a while. What are your promoting plans? Videos, touring, any special action to take right now? I hope weโre talking about A LOT of shows including Warsaw and Fluff Fest[smiles]. Please convince me Iโm not wrong.
We going to record a video this summer IF we find someone to do it. But we are working on it. We really want to play a festivals such as FLUFF FEST, but so far no real interest from festival bookers Iโm sorry to say. BUT we are going on 30 dates tour next September with our very good friends and hardest working band in on the other side of showbusiness: the great HEXIS.
Tell us about your cooperation with labels and distribution crews from Bloated Veins, Braincrushing Records, Discouraged Records, Enjoyment Records, Monotonstudio, Waratah Blackarts Entertainment Group. Who are you signed with right now? What are your plans when it comes to the signing stuff? Any labels youโd like to get in touch eventually?
We are not really signed to a label in that traditional scene. There is almost no label today that seems to want to put their money in small bands, so a co-release between many smaller DIY-labels seem to be the answer. I think it works great for us and all the labels might be small but they all believe in there thing and in us. We are really happy with the arrangement we came up with on the release all the labels and the band. We will see what happens on the next release.
Ok, letโs go back. What were the beginnings of the band, what were your other projects and how did you meet and what inspired you to create this machine?
No one I our band is from Stockholm from the beginning but moved there for work, schools and what not. Johan (drummer) played with post-metal band SEVEN NAUTICAL MILES (Piteรฅ, north of north Sweden) and myself played with the black-screamo innovators GRIZZY TWISTER (Gรคvle, about 1,5 hours north of Stockholm). We moved to Stockholm at the same time but didnยดt know each other and just accidently met. We were both at a show, and Johan was drunk and thought I was another guy and came up to me and stared talking. Then we found out that we worked at the same place but didnยดt know it. It was quite weird the whole thing. Me and my at the time โnew friendโ Lazy (THIS GIFT-bass) had talked for a while about starting a โstraightforward hardcorepunk bandโ. Lazy had skipped around in different heavy metal formations for some years and wanted to try something new. He knew a guy who played guitar in a thrash band, Pacman (THIS GIFT-guitars). So we tried to do some โnoisy d-beat punkโ but the four of us couldnโt do it right and it sounded quite strange. We all came from pretty different musical backgrounds and really didnยดt knew each other that well. Then we stared to play some of the songs on half-tempo and change the drumbeats and it all fell to place and the CDEP was recorded. As we got to know each other better we found our common musically grounds which was old blackmetal, some d-beat crust and bands like ENTOMBED, CULT OF LUNA, BREACHย and GENESIS. So we abandon the whole โstraight forward hardcoreโ thing and stopped thinking so much in boundaries. As well as I got into more occultist schemes in my art and lyrics โ it became more and more clear what we wanted to make and it was not just โstraightforward hardcorepunkโ.
Are you tight with the Stockholm hardcore scene bands? How does such a heavy band go with the rest of hardcore styles out there. Would we see you arm to arm with youth crew bands, for example? Are there any divisions in your local scene?
We feel pretty excepted by all โscenesโ of heavy music, at least here in Sweden what I know. It seems most of the time people donยดt know where to place us so we got booked at a lot of different types of shows, which to us is all the same. As long as itยดs not done by organizations linked to fascism, sexism or extreme religion – we are okโฆ Or they can book us, if they want to invite โhellโ to their home. About scenes; to me itโs really boring. Cause all in our band are into large variety of music and art. The first bookers who made a show with us here in town were SXE STOCKHOLM, and they kept on booking us after that. We feel that we โOโ them a lot for giving us that first chance. We deeply respect them โ as bookers, friends and as a social movement. I myself come from a hardcore background and know the hardships of being a DIY-booker and organize shows with barely any resources. Non in our band is straight edge โ but we would never consume alcohol when we play their shows. Everyone is entitled to their own choices. SXE STOCKHOLM is really liberal when it comes to booking bands from different โgenresโ so really canยดt spot any types of โdivisionsโ. We in the band donยดt care what kind of bands we play with or what kind of โsceneโ it might be. We can play with โyouth crew bandsโ as well as any other, as long they can except that we donยดt see eye to eye on EVERY part of life, moral or politics as they might. I guess there are โbigger enemiesโ and better โfightsโ to take.
Good to hear that.
Any bands, zines and music related stuff youโd like to shout out about? What bands do you find inspiring and influential these days?
We all in the band like and admire zinesโ like the great www.lukinzine.se and www.itsatrap.se. Done by really dedicated people and have always also reported stuff about our trivial little band. We have had the fortune to play with a lot of great bands over the years many that we befriended and most of them are a real inspiring and influential in what they do as a band and as well as overcoming different struggles of being an D.I.Y band 2012, non-mentioned non forgotten. BUT if I have to mention one, I have to recommend producer K. Lennblad that produces our friends in the band IGNOMINYโs records (great band!). His productions are real phenomenal and always takes the edges as far as they go and beyond. Some kind of โgeniusโ or visionary is the right words here I suppose. Also check out his post-sludge-pop band DATING.
Sometimes these days I think itยดs real hard to find new โexcitingโ things in certain โscenesโ at least. Itยดs like many bands wants to use already worn out yet successful โrecipesโ, songwriting styles and sound they know will โworkโ. Bands seem to be more into finding acceptance and to fit in, within scenes and outside. Rather than pushing things forward and โchallengeโ. Itยดs really really really boring – at its best. Iยดm not saying that everything has to sound โnew and edgyโ cause we/I are really into the old stuff. But I think you can use the same โspicesโ, โingredientsโ and โconceptsโ and still make your own dish. Time and soundings will always have the final word anyway. But in the end I donโt โblame this behavior or find it surprising, everyone wants to belong and be part of something. Itยดs really safe (to mimic) and itโs human.
As I said before, we in the band are into really different things when it comes to music but a few bands we can agree on such as; ENTOMBED, BREACH, CULT OF LUNA, WOLVES IN THE THRONE ROOM, KS, JESU (first album at least), YEAR OF NO LIGHT, GENESIS, MAYHEM, BLACK SABBATH, DARKTHRONE and BATHORY. These bands still excites usโฆ
What do you do besides the band?
Like everybody else who canโt live on their music or art: work work wok and study study study. Nothing special.
Thanks so much, really appreciated. All the best for your future, guys. Any last words?
Fuck all โdark emotional hardcoreโ. And a BIG thank you for the attention you are giving this band.
Photos by Rasmus Ejlersen.




